Thursday, February 28, 2019

Adventures in Comic-Boxing: Chip 'n' Dale vs. Wolverine!


Yes... You heard me... I said CHIP 'N' DALE...


...VS. WOLVERINE!


Our boys are preparing for the battle, even now! 


Of course, I never said exactly WHICH Wolverine they'd be fighting!


Just like a "wolverine" to bait-and-switch like that!


But, if you've got any complaints, take 'em to "Brer Wolverine", not me!  I only report on this stuff - and make up names like "Brer Wolverine"!

If you complain, you'll find he's NOT a very good listener! 

This fabled battle takes place in CHIP 'N' DALE # 47 (Gold Key Comics, Cover Date: July, 1977), with a cameo by Super Goof who provides the accidentally dropped Super Goober that allows our now-mighty-'munks to give "Wolverine" what-for!


Such a titanic tussle could only be brought to you, NOT by Jack Kirby, Neal Adams, or even those overrated Image guys, but by Vic Lockman and Kay Wright, of course! 

They even get to celebrate their victory, as if they won the Super Bowl! 

But the REAL kicker here is that CHIP 'N' DALE and WOLVERINE are ALL Disney characters now... so you never know what might happen someday!


Maybe Wolverine could even PLAY THAT RECORD for his 'munkish-mates, with his Adamantium claws! 


Yay for you, Dale!  

6 comments:

Debbie Anne said...

I thought the lettering on the Chip and Dale story looked like Bill Wright's, so I looked it up on the Inducks page...Bill Wright inked this story! I don't think that Bill Wright and Kay Wright were related, though.
https://inducks.org/story.php?c=W+CDGK+47-03

Joe Torcivia said...

VERY observant, Deb!

That IS indeed, the great 1940s-1950s Mickey Mouse artist Bill Wright INKING over Kay Wright’s pencils!

…That’s why Kay Wright’s work looks better, and just a tad richer, than usual!

Would that it could have been the other way around, with *BILL* Wright doing the penciling!

What a shame that such a talented artist was largely relegated to this at the end of his career. Thankfully, he DID get some new Mickey Mouse adventures to draw during this period as well. …Just not anywhere near enough!

And, to the best of my knowledge, Bill and Kay are NOT related! If they were, perhaps Kay would have inherited some of Bill’s talent! …Bob Gregory (artwise) would also have benefited from a forced transfusion of some of that (Bill) “Wright-Stuff”!

Elaine said...

Sheesh. I stand in awe of you folks who can discern the hand of a particular artist in lettering. There aren't that many artists I can identify even by seeing a whole panel of their art, and I love this stuff! I just don't have the visual acuity/memory for it.

And speaking of artists...I'm pleased that Dale (with Chip's help) gets to paint his/their own logo on the cover. I often like covers where the logo is incorporated into the cover art in some way. And I can easily imagine C&D painting their names on the tree-trunk over the entrance to their home.

Joe Torcivia said...

Elaine:

Well, I won’t speak for Deb but, her being an artist and cartoonist – and a fine one, I might add – would likely be some factor in her being able to discern the sometimes huge, and sometimes minute, differences in various penciling, inking, lettering, and even coloring styles and associate them with individual persons. …Deb?

As for me, I’ve made an almost lifelong study of the stuff (even before I had NAMES to associate with STYLES), yet there are still mysteries and many persons remain unidentified! Though fewer all the time, as I’m still accumulating new knowledge, even in 2019!

And, for the rest of us (…and that includes me, and I’ll assume Deb as well), there is always the great fallback of having Inducks, and/or Grand Comics Database to consult! …Though, I was compiling this information – and disseminating it in low or limited circulation fanzines and APAs – long before there were such handy – and valuable – online resources!

It actually goes back to what was discussed in THIS POST, about there once being almost NO such information available…

…And has led to the present day, where I’m STILL disseminating such tidbits of information via this Blog!

As for the CHIP ‘N’ DALE cover, I think that was about as perfect an illustration, in gag, design, and overall regard for character, as the ‘Munks could have had for their first solo comic book cover! As you confirm with your own observation: “And I can easily imagine C&D painting their names on the tree-trunk over the entrance to their home”!

Debbie Anne said...

You guessed correctly, Joe, that being an artist myself, as well as a long-time comic book reader had a hand in being able to tell different drawing and lettering styles apart. (While I may be a pretty good artist, my lettering looks like Charlie Brown wrote it). The Inducks is also a useful reference for Disney material that I will check to either confirm or refute my own educated guesses as to who drew what. That Chip and Dale story looks almost too good to be Kay Wright’s work (at least for those of us who mostly remember his Junior Woodchucks work...no matter how hard we try to forget it!), and the lettering and inking made me wonder if you had the wrong Wright (Ugh, that’s awful...).
I can usually tell the different directors at Warner Bros. apart in the 1940’s-60’s Looney Tunes without seeing the credits (and hopefully I don’t annoy my family by commenting “Oh, this is a Robert McKimson short!” or “This is one of Chuck Jones’ more experimental cartoons!” too much...). I don’t really know all of the animators names at Hanna-Barbera, but recognize when I’m seeing work by a particular animator that I saw elsewhere (Carlo Vinci’s work is easy for me to pick out). I guess you could say I studied animation styles too, as having cartoons on DVD and Blu-Ray makes it easy to watch them frame-by-frame to see how a particular sequence was animated.

Joe Torcivia said...

Ah, exactly as I surmised, Deb!

And, don’t sell your lettering too short, as it nicely conveys the gags you’re putting across! It may not be John Costanza, Todd Klein, or Rome Simeon (…who lettered most of the “West Coast Gold Key titles” until the very end of the 1960s – and whom I best describe as “The-Person-Who-Lettered-Paul-Murry’s-Work-When-He-Didn’t-Letter-It-Himself”), but whose lettering IS? It’s not hard to look at, like when Teresa Davidson lettered Don Rosa (David Gerstein and I disagree on this constantly!), or the big clumsy lettering that often appeared in 1969-1970s Gold Key Comics – that contributed to making “Bird-Bothered Hero” the legendary disaster we regard it as today! So, boldly go forth… and letter proudly!

My eye for art styles was merely that of an “interested reader” who wanted to know and categorize “who did what” – back in the days when little or nothing was known! And, so it remains to this day!

Far more difficult, was my zeroing-in on the WRITING which, even then, I was decidedly drawn to! I noticed patterns in the comics that would eventually emerge as Carl Barks, Carl Fallberg, Vic Lockman, Bob Ogle, Bob Gregory, etc.

But easier than uncredited comic books was in the writing of ANIMATION (mostly WB and H-B, as my favorites), where I eventually isolated what made a script “be” Warren Foster, Michael Maltese (the two greatest animation writers of all time), Tedd Pierce, Tony Benedict, and others! Of course these cartoons mostly had credits but, by making note OF those credits, I was able to isolate the more individual patterns!

Directors at WB were easy! Each had their own individual styles! At MGM it was easier still to discern between the obviously different styles of Hanna and Barbera vs. Tex Avery! Directors at H-B are virtually impossible to identify without credits, as are most of the animators! The in-house style was too dominant over any individuality. I only really can zero-in on Carlo Vinci thanks to the YOWP Blog’s many posts on him.

So, it’s both interesting – and logical, given what we each gravitated toward – that your greater focus would be art, and mine be writing!

And, all you Inducks users out there, add GRAND COMICS DATABASE to your research-mix, if you haven’t done so already! It’s like Inducks… but for EVERYTHING!

Inducks may tell you who drew the “Chip ‘n’ Dale vs. Wolverine” story, and the entire history of Uncle Scrooge, but GCD will also tell you who worked on that issue of Huckleberry Hound, Bugs Bunny, Woody Woodpecker, Popeye, Fox and Crow, Mutt and Jeff, Lois Lane, or Jimmy Olsen! Your knowledge in Non-Disney areas will increase exponentially!

I use it both for new or additional information or, as Deb says above, to “confirm or refute my own educated guesses”! Use the link I’ve provided! You won’t be sorry!