Friday, December 13, 2019

Blogger-torial: Where Do We Go From Here? (Take Two!)


Just about a year ago, I asked the question "Where Do We Go From Here?"


While there were no definitive answers as to "where we SHOULD go", I provided a pretty loud and clear message as to "where we SHOULD NOT go"!

The message was that, at TIAH Blog, we will no longer discuss the new, and self-described "Fresh and Modern", Disney comic books published by IDW (and Dark Horse and others) since the end of 2018, as long as they employ the flat, dull - and, frankly, inferior - English language translations by Erin Brady... and anyone else who, like her, demonstrates a complete and utter lack of understanding as to how these comics have worked in the decades preceding this unfortunate change in editorial direction. 

Working within that basic tenet, I have endeavored to keep this Blog as lively, respectful toward the opinions of others  - and FUN - as I always have!

...But one thing appears to be missing!  YOU!  

Just curious, where have you all gone?  My Comments Section used to be one of the liveliest around!  Just look at prior posts for examples!  It was the thing I enjoyed MOST about Blogging... that great - and FUN (he says again) - interaction with all of you!

For reasons unknown, it has dwindled considerably... and has all but disappeared!

It is the subject matter that remains with the deserved subtraction of IDW Disney?  I know the IDW posts and reviews were VERY lively posts, when I was offering them regularly.

But, this Blog was very lively before 2015 and the coming of IDW Disney comics that had GOOD translations and an editorial structure that CARED!  ...So that can't be it, in and of itself.

Too many posts of the "Adventures in Comic Boxing" and "Separated at Mirth" variety?  They ARE easy to do, and I get to celebrate the oddities I find as I root through my collection in "The Great Organizing and Storage Retirement Project"!

Too few actual comic book reviews?  Too few "Looong DVD Reviews"?

Too few pictures of Averi?  (I can see THAT as a reason!)  :-)


I see other Blogs "folding-up" or becoming as abandoned as huge shopping malls, but I want this one to continue shining and entertaining for a long time to come!

Perhaps this Blog's time has come as well?  If so, I have plenty of other endeavors to keep me busy, such as indexing comics for Grand Comics Database and, of course, the oft-mentioned "Great Organizing and Storage Retirement Project" - let alone the many "real-life" obligations that never cease.  I don't want to end this, but I also don't want to keep "talking to myself"! 

So, I'm open to suggestion... How do we lure all of you lapsed commenters back?

Maybe try something akin to the Gold Key Comics Club "Reader's Pages"!


Make a request (as a comment) and, if it's something I can do, I'll give it my best effort!

This thing has been a great deal of FUN (there's that word again) for over TEN YEARS!  Let's, all of us, do what we can to keep it that way!  Your thoughts, of course, are welcome! 

Thank you - as always - for reading... and commenting!

"Read my Yeh-Yeh's (Grandpa's) Blog... and leave comments!" 

Averi would comment if she could... At her incredible rate of development, I'd give her about three weeks!

26 comments:

joecab said...

I know, I know, and I feel guilty but sometimes life just gets in the way and by the time I catch up on my RSS feeds the post is weeks old and I feel it's too late to post. :( I'll make a resolution to post more, Joe! (And yes Averi is very cute.)

I haven't even read a recently published Disney comic since ... well probably since you did the dialog!

And I juuuust got all caught up on DuckTales: definitely different from the first animted series, and more faithful to the comics in many ways, and not so in others. (This version of Gyro. UGH.) But Fenton/Gizmoduck is now a fellow Hispanic and has the same last name as me, so that's a win. ;)

Joe Torcivia said...

Joe C:

It seems fitting that you should have the first comment of this particular thread, as you’ve been a big part of this thing for so long! ...And, for that and much more, you have my thanks!

“I haven't even read a recently published Disney comic since ... well probably since you did the dialog!”

Same here, once I saw how bland and uninteresting they’d become. Unless you have each and every back issue that ever existed – and have read them all at least once (a claim even I cannot make), save your money, and scratch the itch with those back issues! The more of them I read – especially since the editorial changeover for the current comics – the greater they become… literally by the day, even the hour!

“New DuckTales” is a mixed bag of good and not-so-good… But, then again, so was “DuckTales Classic”! We’ll never have an animated series that is truly based upon the works of Carl Barks, because there’s always SOMEBODY in the chain that feels they must improve upon what was perfect (or near-perfect) to begin with! So, why not enjoy each of the two series for what they were/are!

Besides, in the greatest of ironies, “New DuckTales” is written very cleverly, while the new Disney comics… um, once-were-but-now-are-not! I wish someone would explain THAT discrepancy to me!

And thanks especially for the kind words on Averi! …She’s gonna grow up on some GOOD comics, if I have anything to say about it!

scarecrow33 said...

Still here, Joe! I have not gone anywhere! Except to Disneyland during Thanksgiving Week, and I think I can be forgiven for that, especially as it is a topic not unconnected to this blog. Speaking for myself, I'm on for the whole ride...wherever it takes us!

I love everything about this blog! I love the "adventures in comic boxing" and "separated at mirth". I love the comics postings, the movie reviews--hey, you introduced me to "The Sons of Katie Elder", which is now one of my favorite Westerns! And yes, Averi is a part of the charms of this blog, too! I like it all--even when you make me scratch my head and go "what?" Maybe especially then--because you make me think outside the (comic book?) box.

And even if the current run of Disney comics is not much to write home about--there's so much stuff already in print that's worthy of discussion or even re-discussion. That's what I'm doing lately. I've spent very little time at my local comic book shop. Instead, I am re-reading my old favorites and having fun doing it. I've got boxes full...it will take me a while.

So as the Roaring Twenties approach, let's brush up on the Charleston, crank up those gramophones, and get set for a fun ride in those flivvers and lizzies--but stay away from windows in tall buildings. Who knows? Maybe someday movies will talk--and there might even be a cartoon character to rival the popularity of Felix the Cat! I hear there's a cartoonist in Kansas City who's got some ideas if anyone will listen to him.

So oh, yes--let's talk about cartoons and comics, TV shows and movies, favorite actors and actresses, and more "adventures in comic boxing!" (And more pics of Averi, of course--she's becoming de rigeur around here.)

A funny thing happened to me while walking down Main Street....(It really did, too, but that's a tale for another time.)

Joe Torcivia said...

That’s terrific, Scarecrow!

Thank you for all the kind words! You have always contributed interesting observations, and just so much generally “Good Stuff” to this humble Blog and, even if Thanksgiving has passed, I’m thankful for it all! …And, just when I begin to wonder if I should devote more time to Grand Comics Database than this Blog, words like these (and Joe C’s) inspire me to “keep the balance”.

I’ll admit, though, indexing for GCD is fun, and I get to say many of the things in GCD’s “Notes” that I would also have said at the Blog – for instance HERE and HERE !

That’s the spirit, hit those old comics for all their worth… even if (by the standards of those incapable of appreciating them) their “worth” is monetarily low – because, to me, you, and all the people like us, they are valuable treasures indeed!

…Of course, when you DO “hit them”, don’t hit them too hard… You might lower their condition a grade or two!

And ya never know… you might find some “new favorites” when sampling “old comics”, as with The Three Mouseketeers – something you and Achille Talon had a little something to do with. It’s always great when you find “something new” among the “somethings-old”!

Indeed, I might just declare St. John’s Mighty Mouse and Warren Tuffts’ Pink Panther required reading ‘round here! Along with Sholly Fisch’s entire run of Scooby-Doo Team-Up… and (what-the-heck) anything written by the talented Mr. Fisch! …Feeling just a tad exuberant today, aren’t I?

While I ponder whether or not anyone ACTUALLY CAN be only a “tad exuberant” (or if each word would likely just cancel-out the other), I’d like to thank you for the kind words on Averi. She’s got some good reading ahead of her.

TC said...

I post comments on blogs when I have something relevant to say about the topic. Consequently, I comment when the topic is X and not when the topic is Y.

As far as requests, my interests overlap with yours a lot of the time. So, my suggestions might include:

Gold Key "funny animal" comics from about 1964-65, especially Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny, Uncle Scrooge, and the Hanna-Barbera cartoon characters. Maybe a review of Quick Draw McGraw #14.

Superhero comics from about 1966-67, mainly DC, but also sometimes Marvel, Charlton, and Tower.

DC Silver Age comedy comics (Bob Hope, Jerry Lewis, Inferior Five, Plastic Man, Fox & Crow/Stanley and His Monster, Angel & the Ape).

DVD (and movies in general) reviews. I'm reasonably knowledgeable about Westerns.

1960s sci-fi and spy-fi movies and TV shows.

And I do enjoy "adventures in comic boxing" and "separated at mirth."

And everyone enjoys Averi, although I don't know how many variations I can come up with on, "She's cute as a bug."

TC said...

Suggestion for Separated at Mirth: Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #459 (1978) and Donald Duck #305 (1997). Both covers were likely reprints, although I don't know the original issues offhand.

Joe Torcivia said...

Thank you, TC!

I like those ideas! Now, I have a whole list to pick from – and I’d enjoy writing about all of them.

I’ve just really been curious about the overall lack of activity here (and Blogs in general – Mark Evanier being a notable exception), but you’re all showing me my fears were groundless.

Your wish(es) is (or will eventually become) my command! I especially like the idea of QUICK DRAW McGRAW # 14, as it was the last all-new issue of the title… until (Eek!) Charlton! And, I just checked GCD, and its index for the issue is rather lacking in detail – so this will be a double-win! Look for it, as I am able to make time to do so!

The list is here, and I’ll look back on it from time to time, and select ideas for future posts!

And, thank you especially for your comments on Averi!

Joe Torcivia said...

TC:

WDC&S # 459 would seem to be an original, based on the cover of WDC&S # 215 (by Carl Barks) – which was reprinted for DONALD DUCK # 305.

Characters are reversed-in-facing, and the # 459 cover is more of a close-up.

Prime “Mirth Separation”, I’d say! Good catch!

Achille Talon said...

I would agree that if you posted more comic reviews, or cartoon reviews, or DVD reviews, you might spark up some more interests. Even for me, your posts are always fun to read, but what's there to say in the comment section of a Separated at Mirth? Heck, just drawing from this series of comments, your thoughts on the DuckTales 2017 episodes you've seen would be quite interesting, and I'd wager they'd raise more conversations.

Elaine said...

I like best the reviews of comic books--what I know best are the Disney Ducks, followed by Disney Other and John Stanley's Little Lulu (which you're apparently not as familiar with). You have at times inspired me to get copies of comics of other sorts which I'm very glad to have: the Flintstones' Christmas in Bedrock (after the cartoon), for instance, or that Porky Pig long mystery adventure with the Blot-ish criminal. I'd be happy to see more reviews of Disney comics from the mid-20th century, or reviews of other comics you think are particular standouts. Are any of the Fallberg stories written for Woody Woodpecker on a level with some of the better non-Barks Disney adventures? They do have the advantage over the (non-Ducktales) Duck stories that there is a GIRL along for the ride. (Averi might like that!) I've bought some random issues of WW, but without an INDUCKS to go by, it's hard to know which issues to try.

Maybe you could do more twofers, doing a blog post when you index an issue for GCD? I enjoyed those comments you linked to above. At least alert us and give us a link, when you write extensive comments on GCD.

I note that there is at least one Christmas story in The Three Mouseketeers: "Bigfeets Holiday" in #6. It fits into a genre of comics stories about Christmas, where non-humans are trying to figure out the meaning of the holiday. There are interesting stories where the Little Mermaid, Jeff Smith's rat creatures, and a space alien are learning the meaning of Christmas...I promise to post about that if you review "Bigfeets Holiday"!

I'm also interested in reviews of movies/cartoons/DVDs. They wouldn't have to be as long and detailed as what you've typically done in that line. How about a review of "Night Nurse"?!

Joe Torcivia said...

Achille:

You write: “Even for me, your posts are always fun to read, but what's there to say in the comment section of a Separated at Mirth?”

Excellent point, and another vote for more in-depth reviews! I *am* paying attention!

Joe Torcivia said...

Elaine:

You are really getting me thinking! The shorter posts came about because of the chronic “horrific business”, and then just kinda became the norm. My organizing project fed them with much material that I wanted to share with you all.

But, it *did* really move me off something this Blog was known for – the in-depth (or looong) reviews. And the overriding takeaway from this exercise is that I should put more of those into the mix. It was easy to “slow-down” on them with IDW Disney becoming unreadable, and SCOOBY-DOO TEAM-UP (not to mention BATMAN ’66) being cancelled. But, yeah… I see! …And, once I get going after the holidays, *you* all should “see” as well!

Wouldn’t ya know it, though… THREE MOUSEKETEERS # 6 is one of only two issues I don’t have!

The Woody stories, once you get out of the “anything goes / 1940s thru early 1950s period” basically read like Mickey Mouse or Non-Barks Donald Duck stories. That means that they range from great to average and run-of-the-mill. Nothing ever occurred on the low order of “Bird Bothered Hero”, though. Carl Fallberg and Don R. Christensen wrote most of them, with Vic Lockman stepping in by the later 1960s – as he did with virtually every other title. But, as you say, a difference is that they have a girl in them – and, to the writers’ great credit, she was not treated or characterized any differently than her brother. …Even by Mr. Lockman!

“ I've bought some random issues of WW, but without an INDUCKS to go by, it's hard to know which issues to try.”

Um… You can always take a peek at GCD! There are no ratings, because there is a rule against editorializing by indexers. We must stick to the observable facts – but even when “sticking to the facts” I find a way to get across things I like – or don’t like. Of course, that hardly applies to most indexers.

I started taking notes on two DVDs for reviews, and found that, as much as I liked each one, the notes were difficult to take with the new configuration of “the area of the house in which I watch them”, but I should try going with shorter, less-extensive reviews – which would require fewer notes.

But, HERE is where you really opened my eyes…

“Maybe you could do more twofers, doing a blog post when you index an issue for GCD? I enjoyed those comments you linked to above. At least alert us and give us a link, when you write extensive comments on GCD.”

YEAH! GCD has taken its share of my time (and in a most enjoyable way), but why not share the indexing with the Blog!

Since September, I have over 120 indexed issues to my credit. Some of those credits are just small corrections, or additional items of detail, and some are complete and full indexes with the type of detail I’m known for.

When I post one of the latter at GCD, I could certainly cross-post a link to it at the Blog, prompting you all to check it out, and offer your thoughts.

Yep! I’m-a-gonna-do-that-thing!

Elaine said...

Cool! I'm glad you will let us know when you write one of your more detailed indexes on GCD.

Yes, it's especially the ratings on INDUCKS I'm talking about, when I say it's hard to know which issues of WW to buy. The ratings on INDUCKS are often different from the ratings I would give--for instance, I have little interest generally in the parody stories where the characters are playing roles. And the raters sure like Scarpa's writing a lot more than I do. But I do find the ratings quite trustworthy when I am comparing similar things. To put it another way: a high INDUCKS rating doesn't at all guarantee that I'll like Story X. But when I look at the ratings for stories I do care about, the relative standing of those ratings usually seems accurate to me: yes, Story Y which I like is indeed a better story than Story Z, which I also like. Understood in that way, the ratings have guided me to many stories which I have much enjoyed. If a story is highly rated *and* is by a creator I love or deals with a topic or situation I'm interested in, it's almost always worth reading. So yes, I would much appreciate it if you would tell us which of the Fallberg or Christensen stories in Woody Woodpecker you would call "great"! Each of those writers has written several Disney comics stories which are on my favorites list, so I'd love to see their best work in another venue.

Joe Torcivia said...

Elaine:

Ah, I figured that the ratings played into this, and I can understand why this matters to most folks.

But, in my view (and this goes back to long before INDUCKS), I don’t regard ratings and the like. Why? Because my tastes tend to be out of the mainstream. And, in the case of INDUCKS, my tastes do not seem to blindly echo those of many (though certainly not all) of our European friends.

To me, a rating or a review only has value if you KNOW the rater or reviewer! I don’t necessarily mean personally, but to have a good reading on his or her tastes.

For instance, from reading this Blog (or any exchanges that occur off of it), you know what *I* like. And you know that I am fairly consistent in those “likes”. You also know how *your* likes and dislikes are similar, or dissimilar, to mine. So, armed with that information, you can read a review of mine and – no matter WHAT I say in that review – have some sense of whether or not you will like it too!

So, for me, INDUCKS ratings are inconsequential. But, for instance, if my dear departed friend Chris Barat, reviewed something, I’d know precisely how I would feel about it. …And, no, we were NOT on the same page in many regards – but, knowing exactly what those differences were, I could accurately use his reviews as a barometer.

In a way, INDUCKS can be so subjective (I feel there are certain creators who, despite some good work, are just held in very low regard as some sort of a default), that I’m more comfortable with the “just the facts/make up your own mind” nature of GCD. It works better with my way of thinking – even though I REALLY WANT to include a subjective judgement every now and then.

Fallberg and Christensen were not Barks. Who was?! But they rarely failed to deliver a good solid story, and I tend to “feel confident” with them, when I see their credits on a story I’ve yet to read.

…Of course, if you regularly and strongly disagree with me, I’d suggest you avoid their stuff like the plague!

And THAT is the true value of ratings and reviews! :-)

Elaine said...

Yup, that's precisely the way I used to be able to use the movie reviews of Siskel & Ebert. No, my tastes didn't align completely with either one of them, but I knew them both well enough that I could tell from their reviews whether I would like something. I totally agree that a review from someone whose tastes you know is more informative than an anonymous one...or the aggregate of many anonymous ones. Even so, I find the INDUCKS ratings useful in the way I indicated, when comparing stories within a given category. And if I had even that sort of rating of the WW issues, it would help. Among the bunch of similar stories where Woody, Knothead and Splinter go on some adventure, which are the stand-outs? It goes without saying that such guidance from you would be even more useful and reliable, since I know your likes and dislikes.

Debbie Anne said...

Mostly, I just haven’t been in a chatty mood. Working in retail, the holidays stress me out. I’ve also grown weary of trying to get people who obviously DON’T read Facebook and Feathery Society pages (despite what I’ve heard) to listen to what I think about a certain Fresh and Modern approach to Disney Comics. Either they don’t care, or they discount my opinion because I have been in contact with you and other members of the previous editorial team and they just assume that I’m a puppet account rather than a real customer. But I digress. Hopefully once the holidays are over, I’ll have more to say here.

Joe Torcivia said...

Elaine:

Yes, even the aggregate of INDUCKS ratings would be useful, in that I feel confident in predicting that “Back to the Klondike” will rate considerably higher than “Bird Bothered Hero”! And while I’m obviously kidding here, I *do* see the point.

I haven’t indexed very much Woody at GCD, but those I did are HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE.

That may not help you much, because most of the stories indexed are not of the type you seek, but # 82 might have some interest for you. There is the lead “adventure” (more of a competition story than an adventure – no true villain, just some ordinary “boat-race-cheating”), but you should find the second story of interest, as it deals with “attitudes”.

Without rooting through my comic boxes, I’d certainly say any of the Carl Fallberg/Paul Murry lead collaborations are worthwhile – and even the great Michael Maltese got into the act for some good funny stories… including one that recreated one of his Augie Doggie cartoons beat-for-beat! I will recommend more specifically, as I look them over.

Joe Torcivia said...

Deb:

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away (read “The 1970s”) I worked retail – even thought of it as a management career, once upon a time – so I get you, regarding the Holiday period. I can only imagine things are much worse now, than they were then! (When do the stores begin staying open 24 hours on Christmas Day? Ya know it can’t be far off!)

You just keep “fighting the good fight”, with regard to “Fresh and Modern”. Just as with politics, some people will never really open their eyes to what has happened – or, worse, DO KNOW, and prefer to keep their eyes shut!

I still maintain that the only way to convince “financially-motivated-powers-that-be” is to do it financially. To that end, as everyone knows, I’ve “put my money where my mouth is” – or, more precisely, “NOT put my money where I used to put it very regularly”! The more of us that do that, the more likely we are to effect change.

…And hey… “being in contact with me”, ain’t so bad, is it? At least MY words, if only at this Blog, are still fun to read!

Debbie Anne said...

Had you ever thought of highlighting different Western Publishing (and others) Non-Disney Christmas comics (issues or annuals)? Many years ago, I had a Pink Panther Christmas issue from Gold Key or Whitman that was based on a then-current TV special, for example.

Joe Torcivia said...

I’ve done a bunch of them of the years, Deb…

In 2017, for Bugs Bunny and, back in 2008, a quartet of Weird Christmas Tales that included a different Bugs Bunny, The Flintstones, The Simpsons, and DC’s kid speedster Impulse .
(Please excuse the garish colors in those older links – they’ll hit your eyes like a rock! ...I've learned a lot since then!)

Most often, I’ve just posted different Christmas covers, but Christmas comics are always a good idea – and I really like that Pink Panther issue, so there’s another good suggestion well taken!

Mark Lungo said...

Hey, Joe! It's been a while, hasn't it? I'm finally posting here again for two reasons:

1. I just wanted to wish you and yours Happy Holidays! I hope everything is going well with you. I'm sorry you're no longer working for Disney/IDW; have you looked for any other comic writing jobs? And say hi to Averi for me!

2. I thought of you last night because I caught two Irwin Allen reruns on MeTV. Mini-reviews follow.

• The Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea episode "The Abominable Snowman" was sadly just "meh", due to its cheap-looking monster and underdeveloped story. The Snowman and the crewmen basically play hide-and-seek with each other for an hour, while a global warming subplot that might have been prescient is restricted to a few throwaway references. Voyage did some good episodes, but there's nothing engaging here.

• Fortunately, the other IA show I watched was on a whole other level. "Kill Two by Two" is definitely the best Time Tunnel episode I've seen so far, thanks to Mako's standout performance as the anguished Lt. Nakamura. He's the villain, but he's still sympathetic because he's tearing himself apart with self-loathing. Philip Ahn is also excellent is Nakamura's desperate but dignified father, whose scenes are so powerful that I forgave the contrived coincidence that was necessary to bring him into the story. The heroes also acquit themselves well, with Tony and Doug refusing to give up on either each other or their enemy Nakamura; they reach out to him although they realize that he's too far gone to accept their help. If Irwin Allen had done more stories like this and fewer costumed creatures, he'd have a much better reputation today.

Joe Torcivia said...

Great to hear from you Mark! …And the happiest of holidays to you, too!

Things are fine with us! BUT, SINCE YOU ASKED… A year later, no one has yet explained to my satisfaction exactly WHY I (and our whole translation team) no longer work for IDW. Clearly, we did a good and professional job. Speaking strictly for myself (but I’ve no doubt it applies to the rest of the team as well), this very Blog stands as proof that the work was well-received by the American audience for which it was intended (and also by others) and it was always handed-in to my immediate editor ON or BEFORE schedule! So, I still see no reason for being so unceremoniously sacked – and never received a single word from IDW itself! …The work just stopped coming, and eventually someone else’s name was on the stories!

It’s been a year, and nothing looks like it’s going to change for the better, so the only real change on my end is that I’ve stopped wasting my money on a product that I (and others, according to reactions I’ve seen around the Internet) no longer find enjoyable – or even readable!

Averi will be here in an hour or so… I’ll give her your best!

You probably expected me to disagree with you on Irwin Allen, and your wish is granted.

While there were certainly “by-the-numbers-monster-costume” stories on VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA (“Doomsday Island”, “Deadly Amphibians”, and the like) “The Abominable Snowman” was not one of them!

As I said in my 50th Anniversary post on VOYAGE: “Certain episodes, past the mid-point of the [fourth] season actually take on a darker tone, while still retaining the outlandishness and "Monster of the Week" qualities of the previous season.” “The Abominable Snowman” was one of those darker tone stories!

Literally so because the Seaview seemed more “dimly lit” for this episode, and figuratively so because of the pervasive atmosphere of FEAR, the physically violent deaths of crewman and the surviving scientist… AND (No spoilers!) the VERY NATURE OF THE CREATURE ITSELF!

Then, there is that “pit in your stomach moment” where, immediately after discovering a crewman’s death, Crane tries to open a door… AND FINDS IT BLOCKED BY ANOTHER BODY!

No, as monster episodes went, this was an exceptional one! And don’t forget that Irwin Allen was first and foremost a SHOWMAN, who “gave the people what they wanted”! And if you were around during that period of the 1960s (I was!), the people wanted MONSTERS!

Looking at it through the unfortunate lens of “2001 A Space Odyssey’s” cold and sterile vision of sci-fi (which, alas has NEVER really lost its hold) - and the greater relevance or “high Idealistic social concepts” that we embraced in Star Trek fandom, this episode may appear to be exactly as you view it – but that was not the case when it was made – nor is it REALLY the case even now!

Conversely, as for “Kill Two by Two”, I couldn’t agree more! And that’s what makes the world go-round!

Mark Lungo said...

Great to hear from you, Joe! I'm glad that all is well with you and your family, and it's great to read your thoughtful comments again. Now, on to speicifics.

1. I'm sorry about the shabby treatment given you and your translation team. I hope you find out the behind-the-scenes details someday. Whatever they are, I doubt they'll be pretty.

2. On "Abominable Snowman": I honestly didn't know what you'd think of it. While I doubt I'll ever rate it as highly ad you, I'll concede that it had some effective moments, such as the scene with Crane you mention. And the creature's shocking origin shows that the writer was at least making an effort, although I still think it could have made more of an impact if it had been handled better. AMaybe we're just expecting different things from the episode. You're comparing it with the rest of Voyage, while I'm comparing it with Alien and Predator, which probably isn't fair. However, I wonder what the Outer Limits crew (from either season) could have done with this concept.

3. Glad we agree on "Kill Two by Two"! But when you're dealing with a dynamite performance like Mako's, you just can't argue!

Joe Torcivia said...

Mark:

Thanks for your support in the “translation and dialogue” matter. It is very much appreciated.

On VOYAGE’s "Abominable Snowman", you write: You're comparing it with the rest of Voyage, while I'm comparing it with Alien and Predator, which probably isn't fair.

It is definitely not “fair”, appropriate, or even cricket!

Alien and Predator were a good TWO DECADES OR MORE advanced from the production standards (and, frankly, what you WERE and WERE NOT allowed to do in a story, let alone technologically) from VOYAGE! Compare an old Commodore 64 or Brother Word Processor to whatever it is you wrote your comments to me on! That’s not fair either. Were the Commodore 64 or Brother Word Processor “not good” because they were eclipsed by later advances in technology? Uh-uh!

And, “Demon with a Glass Hand” notwithstanding, whatever OUTER LIMITS might have done with that idea, it would have “done it better” in the first season, than in the second!

Mark Lungo said...

You're welcome for the support on the IDW matter. You've earned it! As for your latest comments on "Abonimable Snowman", I can't argue with any of them. My holiday best to you and yours, Joe!

Joe Torcivia said...

Thank you, Mark! And the same to you and yours!